The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4 - Cisco's Micra Files

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:05:29 PM
	Previous threads - page 1 = http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=82211 Page 2 = http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=83002 Page 3 = http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=84702 Hopefully this will be the last page to completion.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:06:58 PM
	Exhaust completed and dump pipe heat wrapped. Also wrapped the pipe that sits under the sump because its pretty close.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:10:09 PM
	Installing a sandwich plate to feed the oil cooler and also the turbo. Had to use a different oil filter which is about 60mm long so it would clear the power steering line. The sandwich plate was from a SR20/ S13.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:10:56 PM
	Pic of it installed. It's a tight fit.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:13:23 PM
	Started plumbing the intercooler piping. Turbo to intercooler. 2 inch pipe polished aluminium.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:29:15 PM
	intercooler to TB piping

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:31:12 PM
	Needed some where to fit the blow off valve. Cut a hole in the 90deg pipe near the TB.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:31:56 PM
	Welded a 32mm piece of pipe to mount the BOV.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 24 Aug 2013 06:34:18 PM
	How the GFB BOV will be mounted. The BOV is a hybrid recirculating/open BOV. Needed a recirculating BOV to avoid defects but I will run it open.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 25 Aug 2013 05:31:14 PM
	lookin great dan :) will the MAF be mounted upstream of the BOV ? (with running complications like brewey has)

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 25 Aug 2013 07:26:58 PM
	Thanks Frank. I will run be running a MAP sensor via the EMS stinger so hopefully I wont have any dramas with the BOV.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:34:06 PM
	Route of the dump pipe. Hopefully the heat wrap works to keep the temps down cause it's close to the sump

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:40:22 PM
	The evolution of the intake manifold. Did some calculations and figured the plenum volume was going to be a bit too big probably resulting in a bit of lag. So modified the plenum to reduce the volume by about 800cc and as a result I should be able to fit the strut brace now. My welds were pretty rough so I had to grind them smooth, also polished it up a little. Hopefully that the last time I have to alter the intake manifold, oh well a bit of trial and error.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 26 Aug 2013 08:00:45 PM
	Turbo return oil line installed with a bit of heat shield wrapped around to stop the hose from melting

deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Tue 27 Aug 2013 01:51:05 AM
	Nice work mate :) Glad to see the build is coming along strong. If you need any assistance with the Stinger just send me a PM. Keep it up! ---dens

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 28 Aug 2013 08:15:54 PM
	Hey dens, big thanks for the help I hope you can get your hands on that wiring diagram for me you'll be a lifesaver. UPDATE: Installed the oil cooler in between the radiator and the intercooler. Due to the fact I'm still on some what of a budget no braided lines just rubber oil lines.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 28 Aug 2013 09:05:10 PM
	Picked a set of cheap rims 15x7 offset 28+. Going to repaint them. Started to strip the paint off them today. Not sure what colour to paint them. May go with a plasti dip so I can change the colour when I get sick of them.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 31 Aug 2013 10:26:17 AM
	intake manifold reinstalled. Now the nismo strut brace fits easy. You can also see I sprayed the intercooler pipe and radiator black to stealth it up once the grill is fitted.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 31 Aug 2013 07:01:59 PM
	The air box I made a while back ended up being too big and a bit too heavy as well, so just ended up getting a K&N apollo filter which is an enclosed pod filter. Being enclosed should avoid any defect or emission dramas at the RTA. It also comes with a barb to plumb the cam cover breather line into. I suppose being enclosed will stop it from sucking any hot air from inside the engine bay as well. Made an adaptor plate from the turbo intake to the filter. Also put a inlet for the recirculating BOV line. Just gotta run the cold air ducting through an enlarged hole where the original cold air feed was, under the guard to the front bumper bar.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 07:44:39 PM
	Just small bits and pieces left now. Oil feed line installed. 4an braid line which runs a restrictor not sure the size or if it is needed. Ive read you don't need it on a journal bearing turbo but also read that it helps to keep the oil pressure up for the rest of the motor. So I'll run it as is for a while and see how it goes.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 07:47:24 PM
	Oil is feed from the sandwich plate for the oil cooler rather than the port on the front of the head. Mainly because the oil will be feed from closer to the oil pump by using the sandwich plate port.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 07:50:49 PM
	New slimline radiator fan bought and installed to give a little bit more space for the various oil and water lines that are running behind the radiator. Lets see how long it last, only cost $30 off ebay.

nas55s » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 07:56:23 PM
	i'm looking to turbo my micra that i've just purchased. im looking for a cheap but reliable option to turbo it. do you have any suggestions on what i should do? and how much i should set my budget at?

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 07:58:34 PM
	Welded a piece of aluminium to the intercooler pipe which I drilled and tapped for the intake air temp sensor. I mounted just after the intercooler and low in the engine bay so there is no heat sink issues which can result in misreading by the sensor. I went to the wreckers and got an air temp sensor off a Ford Festiva for free, should do the trick.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:00:28 PM
	nas55s, I said before and I'll say it again if your looking to turbo a micra you could budget $5000 but it will blow out. Basic setup you'll a need turbo manifold = $500 - $800, turbo either t2,t25 or td04 = $150 - $300 secondhand $800 - $1000 new, exhaust and dump pipe = $1000 - $2000, oil/water lines = $70 - $100, intercooler and piping = $200 - $600, bov = $50 - $250, fuel pressure reg = $50 - $100 and sundries (bolts, clamps, gaskets, etc) = $200+ (this stuff adds up). That's for a basic setup now will that be reliable, probably not. Probably forgot some stuff as well. Additional to this for reliability you would want, bigger injectors and fuel rail (sr20 are popular) = $200+ secondhand, bigger fuel pump = $50-$150, ECU = $2500+ (new, installed and tuned), oil cooler=$150+, bigger radiator= $150 - $800, HD clutch =$250. Then to take it to the next level, lightened flywheel =$300-$500, bigger cams= $700-$1000, forged internals= $2000+, VLSD gearbox= $1000+. I guess the cost to do a turbo conversion is based on how far you want to go, if you want to buy new or used parts, how much work you do yourself. I have done most the work myself and once complete the cost will be around the $15,000 mark as a guess I've lost count of the dollars I've dropped into this build (that's on the whole car, paint, suspension, brakes, interior, engine rebuild, etc) Bottom line is it would be cheaper to buy a factory turbo car and mod that. But if your like me and just like Micra's then go nuts the more turbo micra's getting around the better if you ask me ;).

Pierce » CMF Member Logan Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 07 Sep 2013 11:40:58 AM
	Loving the work so far mate. Think youll be on the dyno shortly?

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 07 Sep 2013 01:37:31 PM
	Hey Pierce, Looking to get it on the dyno in the next month or so. Just all the fiddly bits left to do.

RBLUV » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 08 Sep 2013 11:50:54 AM
	where did you get the rad hose set from?

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 08 Sep 2013 02:21:29 PM
	RBLUV, Got em cheap on ebay for like $25, had to cut a bit off the top hose to make it fit but otherwise nothing wrong with them. For the price you can't complain. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1//1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10001&campid=5337873294&icep_item=110974099809

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 09 Sep 2013 06:04:15 AM
	Danvillan WROTE: "Just small bits and pieces left now. Oil feed line installed. 4an braid line which runs a restrictor not sure the size or if it is needed. Ive read you don't need it on a journal bearing turbo but also read that it helps to keep the oil pressure up for the rest of the motor. So I'll run it as is for a while and see how it goes. " here,s the flow on my mine sourced from the cylinder head gallery dan, with a very tight restrictor fitted (12 min per litre) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEaH68czbfo i am currently running with about 2 x that flow (1mm-ish restrictor and 5 min per litre)

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 05:43:20 PM
	Seems to flow ok frank, if I later decide to run a oil temp gauge I might have to move the oil feed to the head.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 05:50:07 PM
	Under bonnet temps are going to be a big issue with the high mount turbo. The DIY heat shield didn't fit with the bonnet closed (so $8 wasted no biggie), even with the ceramic coat on the turbo I was worried about the turbo cooking the paint off the bonnet. So invested in some of this stuff, DEi floor and tunnel shield (designed to withstand 1750f deg) which consists of a thin aluminium layer, a 4-5mm layer of heat proof insulation with an adhesive backing (stated to handle 450f deg).

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 05:53:48 PM
	$50 for a 600mm x 450mm piece . The aluminium layer is not that thin and does form real easy to the bonnets grooves so had to install in pieces. Between this stuff, the ceramic coating and the bonnet vents it should do the trick.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 06:11:36 PM
	Nismo cluster re-pinned to fit the JDM looms. Everything working except for the fuel sender. I have the JDM fuel sender and tried to wire it up. The AUS model has 3 pin loom from the sender and the JDM has a 2 pin loom. Help anyone? Anyone got a JDM k11 wiring diagram for the cluster/fuel sender? Oh yeah, a few sticker because I didn't think the Nismo cluster was JDM enough.

Rudy » CMF Member Hunter Valley mob 0400767960 Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 07:55:53 PM
	Danvillan WROTE: "The AUS model has 3 pin loom from the sender(*actually two senders)" one is earth (black), one goes to the negative side of the fuel gauge (in the book it says yellow/red), the last goes to the negative side of the low fuel light (yellow/green???) the jap sender would have the same surely, does the jap sender(s) go to earth differently

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 11 Sep 2013 09:06:32 PM
	Only two wires on the jap senders. Red from the gauge and brown from the low fuel. Not sure how it goes to earth maybe at the cluster or something? I need the jap wiring diagram me thinks.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 14 Sep 2013 03:40:23 PM
	Plumbed the water to the turbo by using the outlet which goes to the stock TB.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 14 Sep 2013 03:45:34 PM
	water line to turbo

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 14 Sep 2013 03:48:35 PM
	water line from turbo to secondary radiator.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 14 Sep 2013 03:51:12 PM
	water returns from secondary radiator to the inlet in the head

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 14 Sep 2013 03:52:55 PM
	Water returns to this inlet.

asdame » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 16 Sep 2013 07:41:14 AM
	ahh that's so clever, why didn't I think of using that route :)

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 21 Sep 2013 08:42:22 PM
	starting a few mods on the interior. installed power windows and central locking Pic of front door setup

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 21 Sep 2013 08:44:55 PM
	The central locking on the front doors are a bit tricky cause of the limited space to mount the actuator. Heres how I did it.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 21 Sep 2013 08:47:33 PM
	Rear door setup required some cutting to fit the power window motor. The central locking actuator is easier on the rear doors

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 21 Sep 2013 09:39:26 PM
	Picked up a couple of cheap gauges water temp and oil pressure. Didn't want to use pods mounted up on the dash wanted something a little more subtle So I decided to make gauge pod out of the lower centre console thingy. I cut out the little shelf thing. Used some 60mm PVC cut on angles to face upwards a bit once mounted. Cut some 4mm MDF to fit in the cut out which was glued in place with a hot glue gun, Used some bog to blend the mdf to the original plastic. Tomorrow i'll sand it and mount the PVC and paint it.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 22 Sep 2013 06:32:51 PM
	more bog, bit of sanding. Glued the PVC pipe on and painted it gauges test fitted. finished. Going to put a missile switch on the side for the boost hi and low.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Thu 26 Sep 2013 08:34:59 PM
	how the gauge cluster looks fitted

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Thu 26 Sep 2013 08:36:24 PM
	Door trim with cup holder (Thanks Hotfunk67) and power window switch installed.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Thu 26 Sep 2013 08:37:37 PM
	Boost gauge installed, just gotta get a wide band gauge for the other pod.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Thu 26 Sep 2013 08:46:26 PM
	UPDATE: Booked into the tuners on the 7th of October, they are completing the wiring of the stinger and dyno tuning. Just have to try and get a blue slip after that and it will be on the road. I from now until then to do what needs to be done, which includes liquids and oil, cold air ducting, final inspection to make sure everything is fitted correctly and tight, etc. I'm sure there is more to do just can't think at the moment.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sat 19 Oct 2013 02:58:32 PM
	UPDATE: ECU wiring completed. After a little drama with the right ECU settings with DIY micra kicked over without much effort at all. Just got to sort out the fine details fuel pressure, timing, etc and on the dyno she goes. Looking at Tuesday or Wednesday next week for the dyno tuning. I'll try and get some video footage of the power runs. So close now can't wait.

Majiga » CMF Member bundaberg Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 20 Oct 2013 12:36:53 AM
	awesome man great job did it so quick

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 20 Oct 2013 10:18:14 AM
	Thanks Majiga cant wait to get it on the road just hope my engine building skills are good enough to take the boost. Short video of the engine not running and then running, nothing too exciting but show its running. http://youtu.be/K87YAQrIvEI

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:03:34 PM
	nice one dan :) and good luck

brewey » CMF Member Sydney Austria Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:41:38 PM
	Danvillan WROTE: "Rear door setup required some cutting to fit the power window motor. The central locking actuator is easier on the rear doors " how did you get the window not to came out off the rails we have glue my drivers window to my rails still does not wind up properly most of the time ? do you live in Sydney like to have a look at your turbo micra I have turbo micra to like to came a round same time my name chris please get back to me

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Mon 21 Oct 2013 06:43:49 PM
	brewey WROTE: do you live in Sydney like to have a look at your turbo micra I have turbo micra to like to came a round same time my name chris please get back to me " Chris I sent you a PM ages ago check your spam/junk mail. But yeah when I get it on the road I'll organise to meet up or go for a cruise. I'll message you when I get mine on the road probably a month off still, a lot of bits and pieces to be done plus Xmas coming up = no money.

Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: The DIY turbo build thread - Page 4	Wed 23 Oct 2013 06:16:28 PM
	build contiunes....... http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=86330