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jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Wed 27 Mar 2013 11:43:02 PM |
hey guys im about to get my ps and was wondering is it possible to get 100kws out of the micra with out turbo and without it costing an arm and a leg lol
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Wed 27 Mar 2013 11:57:52 PM |
100kw N/A track car no probs, but i would,nt want to daily d it personally (been there lol)
turbo FTmofoW, its so easy it feels like cheating :) |
jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 12:04:33 AM |
what kind of things would you upgrade to get 100kws
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 12:12:59 AM |
jay.w WROTE: "what kind of things would you upgrade to get 100kws " my 1311 reached 109hp with many stock nissan parts http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=65695 some quads and extractors would have added another 20hp i guess |
jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 12:56:09 AM |
omg sick micra altho its abit confusing for me all the things you have done not mech minded much but im learning lol so maybe a list of what you did that was easy? please :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:07:10 AM |
jay.w WROTE: "omg sick micra altho its abit confusing for me all the things you have done not mech minded much but im learning lol so maybe a list of what you did that was easy? please :)" i guess you read page 2 too ? :) personally, i would lighten the flywheel first, then extractors and 50mm system, then 1.0 pistons (or 2mm headskim), then SR20 t/b and piggyback or QG 15/18 injectors (+ CGA rail + rising rate reg), then a better inlet cam, then things get expensive :) |
jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:11:09 AM |
theres a ga16 thottle body i could get cheap but you put a different one in?
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jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:16:27 AM |
and the sr20det injector rail would fit?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:17:04 AM |
baguete could,nt get the GA16 maf to work even with the nistune board iirc, the SR t/b with the CG maf upstream worked well on mine jay
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jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:25:35 AM |
so your saying the rail would fit and if i put in the sr20det injectors in it and the sr20det throttle body it would work? oh god i probs sound stupid haha
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:33:14 AM |
the bosch topfeed QG injectors (or any suitable vw/audi etc ebay bosch 0280 155 --- ones) with the CGA fuelrail
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jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 01:37:24 AM |
ohk got ya lol thanks frank :)
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Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 06:18:06 AM |
Hey Jay,
If your interested I have that intake plenum and GA16 T/B that Frank made in that thread. I'm not using it any more as I made one to suit the SR20 T/B with a bigger plenum volume. Hit me up with a PM if your keen on the plenum/TB. |
Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 09:22:32 AM |
jay.w WROTE: "and the sr20det injector rail would fit?" I have a SR20 fuel rail and injectors that has been modified to fit CG13 engine. Don't plan on using this anymore and willing to sell. PM me if interested |
Tyrie » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 07:31:17 PM |
Forget 100kw. Spend your power budget on making it handle and you will have more fun.
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Wallie » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 11:12:47 PM |
Tyrie WROTE: "Forget 100kw. Spend your power budget on making it handle and you will have more fun." +1 more fun being able to corner quicker than to go fast in a straight line to the OP 100kw & cheap & no turbo in these 1.3L engines, they might be good engine but not 100kw n/a without having to spend a decent amount of coin, starting off with a rebuild & bore it out to a 1.4L, bigger injectors, bigger fuel rail, fuel pump, exhaust, ecu, tuning, id say would easily cost near $10k if your not mechanically minded less if you can fabricate & weld, and able to essentially rebuild an engine. |
Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 11:17:51 PM |
Wallie WROTE: " Tyrie WROTE: "Forget 100kw. Spend your power budget on making it handle and you will have more fun." +1 more fun being able to corner quicker than to go fast in a straight line" +2 |
AB-NRML » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu 28 Mar 2013 11:20:19 PM |
Tyrie WROTE: "Forget 100kw. Spend your power budget on making it handle and you will have more fun." +1 again. I have swaybars and strut braces on mine and its great to drive, even with stock power. oh and a better seat makes a world of difference, the stock ones don't hold you very well. |
Pierce » CMF Member Logan Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Fri 29 Mar 2013 09:30:52 PM |
Yeah OP, even though I'm building up a wallet burning micra myself, I've already got a green na micra as my daily and I love it :D
Ive got mulholland cams, Hurricane Extractors, larger air intake, 2.5 inch zorst, machined flywheel (5kg I believe it weighed in at, definitely a nice find from another micra I bought). Full whiteline handling kit - panhard rod, front n rear sway, strut support, camber, castor, and wider rims and rubber. Sooo much fun to drive, although (and some may disagree with me) it has its flat spots in the torque. I'd also suggest a 2nd hand piggyback ecu and you'd probably tune those flatspots out a bit and have yourself a punchy 75kw car. Realistic 2nd hand pricings on all this kit would be approx: cams $500 extractors $200 custom air intake $150 (for a nice boxed one) full zorst w/ muffler $250 flywheel machining up to $100 (been a while since I've seen the prices) panhard rod $100 front sway $100 rear sway $100 strut support $100 camber kit $50 castor kit $100 piggyback ECU $250 Maybe some of those prices are a little high or low but this is an approx cost. Just as an FYI you could probably drop the cams. But one thing you should definitely buy if you don't have already is the Haynes Micra manual. That thing is bloody remarkably helpful. |
jay.w » CMF Member gold coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:51:56 PM |
hey guys thanks for your replys so ill be up for around a grand hmm do you think its worth it? the cars getting a complete respray new tint ect.. i dont intend to sell the car but ill be honest its a very mild amount of power the micra puts out altho i owned a v6 camry before this and would like to have a bit more power, i carnt have turbo because of nsw laws wich sux cos theres no law on us having a 150kw v6 but carnt turbo a 55kw car :s any way thanks again guys ill look into it..
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Sun 31 Mar 2013 11:17:18 AM |
Once you low the car, put a rear sway bar in on small wheels you don't really need and performance I believe, the car is zippy and fun on the downhill/mountain passes
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