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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since:  Posts: |
ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 14 Nov 2012 10:04:29 AM |
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following on from page 2
http://micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=75745 some cut-away pics of the piston options CG13, CGA3 (the current ones), corsa and the LPG CG13 ones that i det,ed on week 1 page 1 :) |
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climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:  |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 14 Nov 2012 07:56:09 PM |
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keep up the good work Frank, three pages of pure awesome I say! Hows the new rear suspension going?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 14 Nov 2012 09:34:40 PM |
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climberjoel WROTE: "keep up the good work Frank, three pages of pure awesome I say! Hows the new rear suspension going?" cheers joel :) the axle project is gathering dust atm i,m afraid (tinkering with this white car is far more appealing :) ) the superior spool-up and response of the bigger exh system means that we,ve refitted the 1/2 bar wastegate setup, those skinny little CGA3 top ringlands wont sustain much more than that i guess. but it just goes to show how much the pressure difference before and after the exh turbine effects boost and spool eh (if you have 20 psi of exhaust pressure in the manifold, and 15 psi of backpressure in the exh system, then the best you will ever get from the compressor is a laggy 5 psi eh) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 07 Jan 2013 09:51:07 PM |
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axle in at last :) (all very much to plan...........strangely)
you can see the effect of the stiff setup now, the nearside shock is only half extended but the antiroll design of the axle wont let it droop |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 07 Jan 2013 09:58:38 PM |
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and we,re currently running a more daily d friendly GT1549, from an N16 2.2D
with a more remote mounted TD05 wastegate, and screamer pipe :) the arrow shows where the original W/G was (right where the exh gasses are concentrated to a fast flowing jet) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 07 Jan 2013 09:59:24 PM |
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in situ, showing the diesel exhaust recirculating valve (to avoid the compressor surge)
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Glenj » CMF Member manchester United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 08 Jan 2013 05:06:10 AM |
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Nice, will drop the grasser off weekend frank for a overhaul ;)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sun 10 Feb 2013 07:25:42 AM |
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Glenj WROTE: "Nice, will drop the grasser off weekend frank for a overhaul ;)" sounds like you have yours sorted anyway mate :) the GT1549 is running mint, but the TD05 needs less backpressure, so we,re doin a s/s 60mm system atm :) 1 long cherrybomb jobbie to fill the transmission tunnel ready for welding |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sun 10 Feb 2013 07:26:31 AM |
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k11_facelift » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 14 Feb 2013 07:13:38 AM |
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That looks nice mate, and much much cheaper than the shop bought equivelent too. Are you trying to quieten the side exit exhaust? Only thing that quietened mine was making a chamber type silencer, using the stock backbox, which made it rear exit and about 8KGs heavier.. and it still ended up being quite loud.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 18 Feb 2013 01:47:18 AM |
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k11_facelift WROTE: Are you trying to quieten the side exit exhaust? " yes matt, its not much louder than stock atm, and i,m trying to keep it that way :) made a start on the 63mm s/s downpipe today |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 18 Feb 2013 01:48:46 AM |
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forgot the pic lol
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sat 02 Mar 2013 06:09:11 AM |
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downpipe, and the 60mm side exit 4 ft cherrybomb fitted now :) so we,re spooling to 9psi @ 2.5k rpm in 5th gear now (the white portion of the gauge is 0 to 10 psi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nc5d3OBrOg&list=UUShAHt9QG4e1Znr-pxWt7UQ&index=1
and hooned it round our track again today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPD_hyhCHE4&list=UUShAHt9QG4e1Znr-pxWt7UQ&index=2 the boost gauge was hitting about 13 psi @ 9 and 13 secs eh untouched 5 months now on that stock engine with the ebay H/G......nistune and fusion basemap ftmofow |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 08 Mar 2013 04:00:01 AM |
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another couple of vids :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkDlTQeqkFc&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac8U_CRMMvY&feature=player_embedded you can see the w/g actuating rod reacting to my throttle movements eh and this was with a small barbed fitting welded to the downpipe, and connected to the boost gauge for an exhaust system backpressure test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mymw_CVE2w |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 09 Apr 2013 07:44:18 AM |
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could only manage a 15.3 yesterday :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVcQB3RVxo&list=UUShAHt9QG4e1Znr-pxWt7UQ&index=1 and having to run N/A this week for the MOT :( :( |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 09 Apr 2013 07:45:13 AM |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sat 13 Apr 2013 06:23:22 AM |
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passed the emissions with flying colours today :) (with fusion nistune board, and SR20 topfeed injectors, and a pretty manky primary cat)
.005 CO (max .3) and 24ppm HC (max 200) |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sat 13 Apr 2013 07:40:41 AM |
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Good work Frank :) amazing it passed !
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 25 Apr 2013 04:42:08 AM |
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Tinky WROTE: "Good work Frank :) amazing it passed !" thanks tinky :) and not as amazed as me ! we found why the n/s caliper was sticking, that ring of rust arrowed was totally trapping the piston ! so scraped the rust off, and then gave them a good linishing, and lacquered them |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 25 Apr 2013 04:42:47 AM |
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Pierce » CMF Member Logan Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 25 Apr 2013 11:12:08 AM |
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wow frank,
They look amazing. are you going to paint them?.. Could you let me know how you cut them back so well? I've got a rebuilt set of ad22v (i believe) brakes at home and they're all black and grimy, covered in shit, but I want to clean them up like that, for a good painting foundation :D |
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 25 Apr 2013 11:53:53 AM |
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frank2 WROTE: so scraped the rust off, and then gave them a good LINISHING, and lacquered them " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linishing |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 25 Apr 2013 05:06:43 PM |
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Pierce WROTE: "wow frank, They look amazing. are you going to paint them?.. Could you let me know how you cut them back so well? I've got a rebuilt set of ad22v (i believe) brakes at home and they're all black and grimy, covered in shit, but I want to clean them up like that, for a good painting foundation :D " the grinder takes the rust off pierce, then this velcro attachment gets it flat and shiny :) and i,m gonna leave them lacquered only :) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 07 May 2013 05:56:36 AM |
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fitted a revised rear crossmember mount, those nylon and rubber insert ones transmit too much vibration when you uprate the engine and g/box mounts (and hp :) )
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 07 May 2013 05:59:23 AM |
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and an I/C too :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Mon 20 May 2013 08:51:47 PM |
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fitted the low comp corsa piston engine and ragged it round mallory park :)
(onboard from msc member arnold,s glanza) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h1Rwza9xPVg cooked the engine by 9 laps tho (and needed 6 cups of water in the rad ! ) here,s the damaged shells from cyl # 1 |
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micratech » CMF Member Geithus Norway Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 31 May 2013 08:43:01 AM |
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Love this project Frank!! Awesome threads man.. :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 25 Jun 2013 06:25:44 AM |
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micratech WROTE: "Love this project Frank!! Awesome threads man.. :)" thanks mate :) currently running the TD05 again, and we,ve fitted the fire rings from a CR 1.0/1.2/1.4 mls head gasket under the CG H/G for a tighter seal |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 25 Jun 2013 06:26:34 AM |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 25 Jun 2013 01:50:54 PM |
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Your bell housing looks like Swiss cheese Frank :) Are you going to locate them by using the tabs in the water jacket? And how will you make a seal? Very cunning idea !
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 25 Jun 2013 04:20:31 PM |
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heh :)
yes those 12 tabs held it in place tinky, and the old CG gasket was placed ontop (silicon sealer both sides) it got me to work and back yesterday (35 miles) time will tell i guess we,ve also been doing another side exit this week, 63mm s/s perf and an alloy barrel |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 25 Jun 2013 09:44:48 PM |
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Looks like turbo roller mower conversion is next ;) How long is that muffler! Looks like you've used a piece of zinc storm water downpipe. Are you going to stuff it with fiber glass or S/S wool. Allways thinking Frank ....
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 26 Jun 2013 12:28:23 AM |
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i cant touch the push mower tinky (her indoors,s heirloom ;) )
and its some weird elephant skin alloy sheet i picked up, the folded seam came out ok eh ! nearly 4 ft x 5 in dia fills the tunnel somewhat, and 2 bags of rockwool |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 27 Jun 2013 07:21:05 AM |
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side exit fitted http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vau2BpwHh6w
and my previous fire-ring issues are probably not helped by the open deck design of the (non auto) blocks. the cylinders are free to expand and contract independently from the rest of the block eh (cast iron liners/alloy block). so after 6 months of heat cycle,s, the ebay H/G fire rings lack the clamping force to withstand any boost i guess |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 27 Jun 2013 08:27:19 PM |
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Eeekk !
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 09 Aug 2013 01:26:50 AM |
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gonna try out a TD04 soon :)
and compared the difference while trial fitting (TD05 on the left) aiming for an 04/05 hybrid |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 09 Aug 2013 01:33:33 AM |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 09 Aug 2013 01:36:08 AM |
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lightened and polished :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 16 Aug 2013 05:33:21 AM |
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acquired some 20mm titanium bar this week :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 16 Aug 2013 05:33:58 AM |
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Seb » CMF Member France Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 16 Aug 2013 06:45:55 PM |
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Love that! Much stiffer around the big roundabout you turbo drove me in? ahah :D
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:57:12 AM |
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aye seb :)
the TD04 definitely spools quicker, more diesel-esque than vtec now :) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:57:54 AM |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sat 24 Aug 2013 07:41:58 AM |
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wrapped the downpipe
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Sat 24 Aug 2013 07:43:06 AM |
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and advanced the cams 10 deg for that extra grunt :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Tue 29 Oct 2013 11:13:03 PM |
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we,ve been testing an unequal length mani this week, for a bit of subaru burble :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACjeaNFYKk |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 31 Oct 2013 08:09:13 AM |
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Sounds very Subaru :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 01 Nov 2013 07:13:11 AM |
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Tinky WROTE: "Sounds very Subaru :)" or maybe a cross between a 2CV and a V8 :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXzSyaSYew0 a TD04 from a GTO this time, non open-air wastegate |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 07 Nov 2013 09:13:43 PM |
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and here,s the end result :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCd53tNvJnQ&feature=youtu.be |
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Danvillan » CMF Member Mulgoa Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Thu 07 Nov 2013 09:40:19 PM |
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wow that really does sound like a scobby. Sounds good
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royale » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 08 Nov 2013 02:25:19 PM |
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Sounds brillo!
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 02 Jan 2015 12:54:12 AM |
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we,ve done another burble mani this week :) swapped the primaries over this time, from left to right and welded an audi tdi T15 to it
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: ghetto turbo build page 3 |
Fri 02 Jan 2015 12:55:32 AM |
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pic wont load for some reason :(
had to link them here https://www.micra.org.uk/threads/what-did-you-do-to-your-micra-today.43944/page-436#post-709501 |
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