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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since:  Posts:  |
Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 11:41:30 AM |
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Well finally got the girlfriends car all back together, it cranks, has spark, fuel, but not starting, anyone have any ideas on what it is?
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 11:59:34 AM |
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What was pulled apart?
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 12:03:03 PM |
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Nothing was, the engine was busted, got another from Rudy and just swapped over dizzy and gearbox off the old engine, and put a new set of plugs, oil and filter and fuel filter
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 12:08:54 PM |
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Different ECU between the engines?
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 12:11:09 PM |
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Doom WROTE: "Different ECU between the engines?" Didn't think there would be a problem? But the car has been sitting for a while, maybe it could be the fuel? |
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 12:14:27 PM |
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Maybe stuck/blocked injectors , are the plugs wet with fuel?
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 12:46:37 PM |
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The plugs are dry
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 01:08:06 PM |
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Fuel might be off, you might have missed a plug somewhere? Timing? Immobiliser?
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 01:58:12 PM |
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Are you using the loom you bought from me? Might be a different model / plug / pin / series? Something might not "line up"?
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 02:55:43 PM |
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Nah, using the existing loom that was in the girlfirends car, and the timing is good, checked it before putting it in, maybe the dizzy is out a little?
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 03:47:54 PM |
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Maybe dizzy 180deg out? Is fuel pump pumping ?
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 03:49:37 PM |
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Fuel pump is pumping, and that maybe one option with the dizzy
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 04:41:52 PM |
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Fuel pipes on backwards ? Have you tried a drop of fuel down the t/b ?
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Rudy » CMF Member Hunter Valley mob 0400767960 Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 04:43:23 PM |
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RTK WROTE: "The plugs are dry" sounds like a fuel problem, if the pump is working disconnect fuel rail and see if fuel is getting to there, if not work your way back |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Mon 01 Oct 2012 04:53:57 PM |
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Rudy WROTE: " RTK WROTE: "The plugs are dry" sounds like a fuel problem, if the pump is working disconnect fuel rail and see if fuel is getting to there, if not work your way back" Ran out if time this weekend was going to do that next weekend |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 02:52:25 PM |
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Well still doesn't run, I put 10litres of fresh fuel in it, added an liqimoly injection clean, found an earth wire not connected -.- connected it, still doesn't run, fuel pump works, fuel pumps from the tank to the rail, any thoughts?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 03:21:15 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: Have you tried a drop of fuel down the t/b ?" ? |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 03:35:02 PM |
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I plugged the plugs out and inspected down the hole, there was fuel build up on the pistons
Yeah no luck |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 03:45:31 PM |
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RTK WROTE: "I plugged the plugs out and inspected down the hole, there was fuel build up on the pistons" and the plugs were dry ?? nah, i dont buy that if it was a runner before you fitted it, and you,ve only changed the dizzy then somethings not fitted right. the most common mistakes are the small dizzy plug swapped with the coolant sensor plug, or the fuelpipes fitted the wrong way round |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 04:08:14 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: " RTK WROTE: "I plugged the plugs out and inspected down the hole, there was fuel build up on the pistons" and the plugs were dry ?? nah, i dont buy that if it was a runner before you fitted it, and you,ve only changed the dizzy then somethings not fitted right. the most common mistakes are the small dizzy plug swapped with the coolant sensor plug, or the fuelpipes fitted the wrong way round" The plugs have fuel marks on then, what I have listed is what I have done today, and it's the 1.3 only has one large plug for the dizzy, yeah checked he they were with my micra |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 04:29:55 PM |
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Then maybe the earthlead was the problem and it,s now flooded ?
But you will have to purge it before it will start, with 30secs of full throttle cranking and a pump fuse removed |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 05:11:24 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: "Then maybe the earthlead was the problem and it,s now flooded ? But you will have to purge it before it will start, with 30secs of full throttle cranking and a pump fuse removed" What will that do? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 05:28:06 PM |
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RTK WROTE: What will that do?" it dumps the residual fuel pressure and blows the excess fuel out the cyl,s |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 05:34:28 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: " RTK WROTE: What will that do?" it dumps the residual fuel pressure and blows the excess fuel out the cyl,s" Then after 30secs, put the fuse back in and should start up? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 05:37:31 PM |
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they usually fire up then die within 20 secs (unless you,re quick with the fuse refit)
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Problem with starting |
Sat 06 Oct 2012 05:45:22 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: "they usually fire up then die within 20 secs (unless you,re quick with the fuse refit)" Okay I'll give it a go tomorrow cheers frank |
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