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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since:  Posts:  |
Suspension Setups |
Mon 12 Dec 2011 02:45:22 PM |
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Hey all,
I have been searching and searching for suspension details on the Micra. It needs to be lower, asap, and trying to avoid buying coil overs at the moment. I saw somewhere someone said Civic springs fit in the front.... with a little weight reduction to the spring... Which Civic front springs fit? I'm after the firmer ride, Matiz struts to come later. Any recommendations as to which rear springs will match? For firmness, short stroke shocks to boot? Have looked everywhere, not sure if looking hard enough :/ Thanks in advance! Also, where do you all get your bits from? Ebay doesn't really have much support for SA! |
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niiCk » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 02:50:33 PM |
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Hey man,
I have the matiz front setup ready for you:) will let it go for cheap and can post it for you:) http://micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=71938 btw, ive fitted civic springs before, and they have such a high spring rate that when you lower the car, it doesnt even compress at all and pretty much have no suspension travel. The matiz setup is pretty much perfect and i daily it with no problems. If youre really keen, send me a PM, i can work out a price for you for the matiz front setup and help you with the rear. Thanks, Nick |
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 03:26:23 PM |
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Post a pic of your car, where in Adelaide are you?
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 04:23:21 PM |
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2 sets of Matiz rear springs and a set of Barina rear shocks.
Looks like this  nice daily height and doesnt rattle your teeth out. |
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 04:28:17 PM |
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Here's the beast
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 04:30:42 PM |
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Anyone know where to get the matiz bits? And which Barina??
Hotfunk, they not chopped matiz springs? |
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 05:29:26 PM |
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Hey Schnapper, no they are not chopped. Matiz bits from a wreckers and the shocks are from a Barina SB also from the wreckers
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 10:00:22 PM |
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Looks tidy mate, good starting rig
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 12 Dec 2011 11:50:00 PM |
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Oh Doom, from Adelaide too! Im eastern suburbs, Burnside at the moment. You?
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Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 13 Dec 2011 08:56:32 AM |
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cool, there is a few of us from south and another mate out north
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 14 Dec 2011 06:17:09 PM |
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Well what do you know! I have front suspension on its way, have back suspension sitting in the back of my car(boot, not installed..... yet) and I have some wheels waiting for me too ;) I'll reveal once I have them in my arms!
BUT as far as tires go, where would be the best bet for some 185/55-14s or 185/50-14s??? Any other sizes to recommend for some 14x6" wheels? Also, should I put in the rear suspension now and get it over and done with? My ratchet fingers are really trembling.... |
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 14 Dec 2011 09:31:33 PM |
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Barina SB shocks have a wider metal sleeve in the bottom! Have to get a new bottom bush/sleve in there. Springs are in but just waiting on sag now...
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 14 Dec 2011 09:45:12 PM |
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Schnapper WROTE: "Barina SB shocks have a wider metal sleeve in the bottom! Have to get a new bottom bush/sleve in there. Springs are in but just waiting on sag now..." Use the micra metal sleeve |
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 14 Dec 2011 10:43:12 PM |
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Don't have a press to get the bush out.
I'll go to a suspension joint to see if someone will have a smaller sleeve to go in. Also, since the shocks aren't the shorter stroke and I *cough* forgot *cough* to put in the bump stop it rattles around like crazy, will fix this on Friday. Seems like if I put the bump stops in there will be hardly any drop as it's only just lower as it is now.... |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 14 Dec 2011 11:45:30 PM |
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Schnapper WROTE: Seems like if I put the bump stops in there will be hardly any drop as it's only just lower as it is now...." here,s the angle of my panhard rod (more or less horizontal) which is a better measure of drop considering we all use different wheels/tyres/arch roll. its about an 80mm drop iirc, and the springs are still captive with the astra shocks (with 1mm shaved off each side of the lower bush, and an m10 bolt used) |
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Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 15 Dec 2011 12:56:07 AM |
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Hey hotfunk67 mind posting a side view of the car just wanna see how the clearance is like. How far does the car sit above ground? Also are you using standard uncut matiz rear springs at both front and rear of the micra? Standard front shocks?
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 15 Dec 2011 01:28:25 AM |
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^what he said.
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 15 Dec 2011 05:08:21 PM |
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Mimz, yes standard uncut Matiz rear springs on the front and back with standard Micra front shocks.
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Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 16 Dec 2011 12:28:24 AM |
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So how is the handling? any negative effect considering its the same rated springs at both ends and there more weight at the front than at the rear. Would there be any chance the springs might work it way loose ie, going over bumps on rough road and then one of your spring came poping out?
Ps nice clearance tho look like +100mm so fairly legal. |
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 16 Dec 2011 11:35:31 AM |
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Handles much better than it used to, doesnt feel like it's going to fall over in the corners now:)
The springs are captive at both ends so no they are not going to come loose. It may not be the ultimate handling package but it is comfortable for use as a daily and looks much better than the standard height. There are no chopped springs and it is legal height so no unwanted attention. I didnt want to go super low so this is perfect for what I wanted and I can still get up my driveway. Best thing is it cost me just over a hundred bucks, Bargain. |
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Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Sat 17 Dec 2011 04:31:42 PM |
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so ur still using standard panhard rod
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Sat 17 Dec 2011 07:59:32 PM |
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Mimz WROTE: "so ur still using standard panhard rod " at this stage but will be getting an adjustable in the future. |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Sat 17 Dec 2011 10:49:35 PM |
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Im running Daewoo matiz struts with 3coils cut handles so good but want to cut another just so the car sits level
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 05:37:29 PM |
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Shit! Going to put the matiz struts in and they dont fit in the micra strut standard holes. any tips on removing the micra top hats? Ill need a spring compressor now right? On my way to the shop :(
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 05:54:45 PM |
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You have to drill ours the tops to 12mm then it fits
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 06:26:17 PM |
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Nah there's a big 8 sided nut thing on the top of the matiz strut which won't even fit in the strut top hole... going to have to swap the tops :( another day....
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 07:14:15 PM |
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Well i don't know what the problem is, my swap from k11 to matiz was a simple one
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Schnapper » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 07:59:27 PM |
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Ohk, well I've got the strut tops off the matiz struts but can't get the tops off the micra struts.... the hole in the top of the cone thing is too small to get a spanner in so I can't get anything on to the bit of the bolt sticking upwards which is flat.
And then the problem of putting the new strut in is the same because the I wont have any way to stop the shock bolt thing spinning.... I also don't have a rattle gun. |
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 20 Dec 2011 08:52:54 PM |
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A rattle gun is your only friend in this battle, I think this is why mine was an easy swap
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hotfunk67 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: Suspension Setups |
Tue 20 Dec 2011 09:24:27 PM |
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You need an offset ring spanner size 12or 14(cant remember which one) and a small spanner for the thread part if you dont have a rattle gun.
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wehey » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: Suspension Setups |
Mon 02 Jan 2012 08:40:07 PM |
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I used a swan neck spanner and a good quality pair of mole grips on one side of mine and an impact driver on the other
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